[Art] 2 new, 1 req and 2 updates (1 free sketch request open) (11/20/09)

[Mao]

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Is it just me who's tempted to put tab A in slot B?

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Bahahahahahahaa!

[Lisky]

I hate you both... sooo sooo much... *facepalm* and boxy, how could you be so mean after i sketched WITT for you?!

[llearch n'n'daCorna]

It's easy, Bas. I just step out there and do it. ;-]

It's like sex. It's easier after you fall off the bicycle.

[Lisky]

haven't updated in a while...

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/Ed001.jpg

Ed, my cubi character from The City... seems he is being lazy



http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/Kassin001.jpg

Filler sketch of Kassin for The1Kobra, i'm still trying to find a post that works with him... sorry for the delay

[Lisky]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/scan-1.jpg

Just a quick sketch i did while being bored and trying to study, took about 30 minutes or so

turned out pretty good, and i plan to fix this one up as the head is a bit too small

[Lisky]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/Edaric.jpg

Somewhat NSFW due to violence...

Anyways, this is something i started the other day out of a strange mental image in class... which has now turned into a Halloween themed picture.  For those of you who've followed the RP The City, you'll know Ed is rather absent-minded, comes off as rather charming from first impressions, but is actually quite the brutal fighter...

The image came out a little creepy, and quite brutal (sorry if i offend anyone, the victim is intentionally nondescript)... I'm looking for critiques on the poses, anatomy, and things of that nature... anyways, this is the work in progress... i'll post an updated one after inking, and possibly coloring (dear gawd i hope not )

[bradypodidae]

Anyways, this is something i started the other day out of a strange mental image in class...

Sorry, Bas, I am unqualified to offer critique on art. However, I am interested to see the final result.

My main reason for posting is your statement quoted above got me very curious as to what class were you attending, and what was going on in that class to give you such a mental image?  

[Arroyo Milori]

It's pretty rough and anatomy needs a bit of a brush up. You have the arms done really well but the legs feel like they need a bit of a muscle tone to them, even though they are wearing pants. Keep working on the anatomy of the head, study off some pictures until you got them down. : D

[WhiteFox]

The image came out a little creepy, and quite brutal

Pft. This shouldn't bother any real artist . Once you see renaissance anatomy studies (Da Vinchi "in vitro" work, for one), nothing will get to you.

Anatomy can be a real pain. Proportions aren't so bad because you can just study the numbers, but getting into anatomy means studying how something actually looks which is a lot more information to absorb. Honestly, (IMHO) anyone who is going to study anatomy needs to work with real life reference.

The general proportions aren't bad, actually. Most of Ed's torso looks good, in terms of relative measurements (Width of the shoudlers vs. the head, length of the arms, and the size of the torso vs. the head). The anatomy is alright in places too; particularly the shoulder, biceps, traps, and neck. The hands look like they're the right size, just a little shy on the detail... which is also a matter of anatomy. Same goes for the eyes and muzzles/noses.  The eyes have a sort of "Egyptian Hieroglyphics" look to them.

The things that look off seem to be mostly from one of two things: Gaps in the anatomy, or the angle at which things are drawn from.

Ed's left shoulder looks off since it's so far forward. At that angle, the shoulder is usually mostly behind the chest.

Ed's right leg looks uncomfortable, probably because of how the foot is turned.

A forearm usually has most of it's muscle mass close to the elbow, and tapers to about half way to the wrist. The wrist is usually about half as thick as the widest point of the forearm, but this can vary depending on how muscled the person is. Also, the wrist is wider then it is deep, so that measurement can change depending on pose as well. (The victim's forearm muscle looks like it's in hte middle of the forearm, and Ed's lower forearm don't really seem to taper at all.)

Ed's hips seem like they should have more mass to them. Might just be me, though.

We don't see much of the victim's ribcage or pectoral muscles, and one of his legs looks longer then the other.

...study off some pictures until you got them down. : D

I'll second that. Most effective kind of practice there is in art.

[Lisky]

Thanks for the advice Whitefox i've gone and tried to adjust some of the things you've mentioned without completely starting from scratch.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/EdTentacles.jpg
The updated version

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/EdClose-up.jpg

this one popped up while trying to practice for a face/head...



http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/BasVictory.jpg

This was something that popped up out of seemingly nowhere, muse hit me and i went with it

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/BasandAleyna.jpg
As did this one... which... ironically, came the day after i re-did the Ed sketch...

I'm 90% certain my muse is insane... but, i'll let you be the judge of that

[WhiteFox]

The Ed pic looks much improved.

Looking at the Close Up, there's a few things I could mention about eyes that might be useful. Bearing in mind that most of these guidelines don't apply to manga art styles, nor animals. This doesn't really cover how eyes look from different directions, either.

(Two very quick-and-dirty diagrams later...)

Proportions:

1: Devide the width of the head into quarters, then eighths. 2: Draw two circles. They'll be 1/4 of a head wide, and centered on the quarter marks. 3: Two more circles, for the iris (color) and pupil of the eye, which will be 1/2 the width of the eye overall. 4: Add eyelids. 5: Clean up. (Some guides say to divide the head into fifths, but I find that nearly impossible to do accurately, and it leaves too much space between the outer corner and the side of the head.)

Anatomy:

1: the upper eyelid rests just on top of the pupil. This is key when making them looked relaxed! 2: The lower eyelid is almost always relaxed, and usually meets the bottom edge of the corona. If the eye is looking upwards, or the head is tilted forward, there will usually be some white underneath. 3: The upper eyelid is not usually one smooth arc, unlike the lower. It will usually "peak" closer to the inside corner of the eye. I find the peak, on average, lines up with the inside edge of the corona. Dotted lines compare the width of the iris to the overall width of the eye.

(Whee! I figured out how to put tables into a post.)

In the Victory pic, Bas' head and the hand holding the shield look a bit small.

I like the poses in the Aleyna pic, and his feet look good considering the angle they're drawn in.

[Lisky]

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/BasAleynaCuddles.jpg

Went and did this not too long ago, it's still quite rough, but figured i'd put it up now, seeing as it'll be a little while before it's worked on... Also, beware the adorable

[Lisky]

So... starting with a little story here... on MSN, our good friend, and one of our favorite vixens, Gabi, often times has connection issues.  Melody, Aish, Keaton and myself often find ourselves 'fishing' gabi back it.  This produced a silly mental image this week, which because this rather quick sketch
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/TheGabFishers.jpg

Next up, a conversation with Cog, from his RP... the Mad God's Masque.

"How would one challenge a tri-wing to begin with?"
*long and drawn out conversation of various ways one might try and confront such a powerful force*
Cog:"So... how would Baseel fight a tri-wing"
Me: "Uh..... Sucker-punch and RUN! no need to stand around to see if it actually worked..."

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/SUCKERPUNCHandRUN.jpg

(appologies to Azlan, as it's more a joke than anything.  Kiet's face is rather generic... in the future i'll send some proper gift art your way)


Something keaton and i discussed of our respective characters squaring off for a duel... it came out pretty well, thought i'd share the latest update.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/BasVsKeatsUpdate.jpg


This one i noticed a few things off compared to the original... it is now quite obvious the pair are both demons... and they're still lookin' adorable.

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e268/EWork88/BasandAleynaUpdate.jpg


(I'm fixing Pal's request up with a few minor things, it'll be posted some time tomorrow)

[Tapewolf]

Nice.  I am thinking that your canine muzzles are rather too long and pointy, though.  It me it makes them look a bit like kangaroos or something.

[Lisky]

heh, it's been something i've been working on, yes... i agree, and i think it doesn't help that the muzzles are a bit too narrow as well... but yes, thanks for pointing that out Tape

[WhiteFox]

Some of the noses look, to me, like they're not quite at the same angle as the head. As though they're turned more towards the camera then the rest of the face is.

The thing that strikes me about the faces, though, is that the forehead seamlessly blends into the bridge of the nose. There isn't any suggestion of the brow, or the bridge of the nose.

I hope this doesn't turn into as big a discussion as it was in my thread, but the shape of the bewbs look off. Smaller bust lines don't sag very much.

The torsos of the characters look really square, like the spine is stiff (I might have mentioned this before). It's most notable in BasVsKeats and Suckerpunch.

In Fishing, the wing lacks a distinct bicep and forearm. Wings are always a pain, but I thought I'd mention it. It's a cute scene, tho.

In Bas+Aleyna, her arm looks reeeally long.

Other then that... Nice work all around. Suckerpunch got a chuckle out of me, as well as Fishing, and the facial expressions in Bas+Aleyna are very sweet. The ends of the noses are looking better all around (though they do look kinda long).