[Epsilon Chapter 50]

Started by Starcat5, December 20, 2024, 03:16:59 AM

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Starcat5

50-01 - Ask and thee shall receive

Just a polite reminder for those who forgot how Yvonne was being questioned...

"Cubi are shape shifters, you moron!"™

Just wanted to clear up any confusion before it happens.  :P
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ProfesseurRenard

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Quote from: Starcat5 on December 20, 2024, 03:16:59 AM50-01 - Ask and thee shall receive

Just a polite reminder for those who forgot how Yvonne was being questioned...

"Cubi are shape shifters, you moron!"™

Just wanted to clear up any confusion before it happens.  :P

If she couldn't give answers (adequate ones, anyway) to Lady Finch, I'd wager they'd interrogate someone higher in the chain of command. And there's only one person I can think of who fits that description...

ProfesseurRenard

50-03 - Daryil does not, in fact, have the Key to Time.

Excellent reference.

Starcat5

50-04 - If Daryil was a dragon, he'd hoard criminals.

Nothing to add. The subtitle says it all, really.  :mowtongue
Conservative Democrat or Liberal Republican: You decide!
The Centrist line has moved a long way to the Right over the years.

I'd argue that's a horribly shallow argument, except it's completely true. ~ooklah

Infranscia

Well, according to this one book I'm reading (Negotiating the Non-Negotiable - How to resolve your most emotionally-charged conflicts, by Daniel Shapiro), a very bad way to get to change someone to change their mind is to appeal to reason, while completely ignoring what's deeply-important to them about their current beliefs, and why.

...And honestly, that matches very well with my own observations, with multiple groups trying to get each-other to drop the others' beliefs on the spot, calling each-other names, etc...

Honestly, this book has a lot of stuff that I haven't seen in any other book on conflict-resolution.  (And as someone who gets into a lot of conflict without meaning to, I've read a LOT of conflict-resolution books and stuff. ='D; )  It's also resonated with a lot of things I've noticed, whether things that seem right, or things that seem wrong.
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Tapewolf

Quote from: Infranscia on January 17, 2025, 03:33:38 AMWell, according to this one book I'm reading (Negotiating the Non-Negotiable - How to resolve your most emotionally-charged conflicts, by Daniel Shapiro), a very bad way to get to change someone to change their mind is to appeal to reason, while completely ignoring what's deeply-important to them about their current beliefs, and why.

Yeah - this isn't the last word on the matter, and I'm sure they'll continue arguing about it off-camera over the next few decades/centuries.

You've also got the question of who's trying to change who's mind.  At the end of the day, Daryil is an absolute monarch and Nigel has to go with what he wants.  Daryil is taking the cautious approach, whereas Nigel is advocating for killing wrongdoers, something which is tricky to undo if they change their mind later or discover mitigating circumstances down the line*.

Daryil may not have succeeded in enlightening Nigel at this point, but Nigel has not managed to convince Daryil to change the status quo either.

*Which is its own can of worms. Once you've executed someone, there is a strong impetus for the powers that be to fight tooth and nail to crush any attempts at further investigation, because they do not want to be shown to have made a mistake like that.  So they will fight to perpetuate the injustice just to save face.

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